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Has anyone got a note of the trad routes that are mentioned?

Mark Somerville 18:10, 19 May 2006 (BST)

I don't think 7c is a realistic onsight grade for alot of those routes, I think you should stick with 7c+ for the likes of Gentle Mass and Awaken.

I understand there are style issues with these routes but the original grades did stand against similar length routes across the uk. --Dredpath 09:50, 11 April 2007 (BST)

Are sport routes not graded for the redpoint?

Spare us that contrived debate. No they are not. The point was that they are very technical and sequecy routes and as such much harder than say Comedy, which is a benchmark solid 7c, to onsight.


I've reverted the page back to the way it was before the grades were changed and added Dave's changes back in.

It is only common courtesy to come to some kind of consensus before making changes like these.

Mike Lauder

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