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I'd like to see the recently posted in topics up there on the main page, just as they used to be. Just a simple list of topics. The recent posts page is not the same as this!

If that's not possible with this new style discussion then I'd like the old style back, otherwise people will go to UKC or UKB, unless they already have. I personally find the new discussion ok-ish but think i might lose interest since no one else can use it! The forum topics are all over the place, they've got to be weaved together somehow.

Michael Lee16:24, 24 April 2010

The lack of postings speaks volumes thinks...

Mark McGowan15:35, 25 April 2010

Michael, what are the differences between the old forum and the current one, exactly?

The old forum had the titles of the ten most recently replied-to threads displayed on the main page. Currently, users must click on a link to see these. This is not much of an impediment - and it keeps the main page tidy. However, the new forum shows users much more information.

Looking at the old main page, users would essentially have to memorise which order the thread titles had been in last time in order to be able to see what had changed just by looking at the main page, and the thread titles could - by chance - have been in exactly the same order as the day before, but with lots of unseen replies. Users could previously only check what replies had, in fact, been made by clicking on each thread separately.

Currently, users make one click and they can see at a glance all the threads that have been replied to today, who has replied, which sub-forum each thread is in, and even the first sentence or two of the actual replies. If you want to look at the contents of a sub-forum - say, Lifts and Partners - you click on it - just like the old forum. But, unlike the old forum, if you think a new sub-forum would be useful you just go ahead and create it yourself.

What do you mean no-one can use the new discussion system? You read a thread, hit reply, pound the keyboard for a while, then hit 'post', or in this case 'Save page'. Prettty standard stuff. The forum topics aren't all over the place - they're all there if you hit that link on the main page that says 'Forums', just like they were before.

Surely this new system is WAY better than the old one?

The only problem I've had is not being able to search for the user creation log, but I've just tracked it down: special pages > logs > user creation log; or latest posts > namespace = user > user creation log.

TomCE22:28, 25 April 2010

Hi Tom Having not been on during the old forum system, I cant compare, but I think the point is: - has user interaction reduced since the new system? if so (dramatically), then the general user is not finding the process of posting easy enough? And ironically cant voice their opinion by posting it...

if Postings are much of a muchness, then there is no problem with with system, just lack of interaction. which is a more subtle issue requiring a different approach i suppose?


Mark McGowan08:25, 26 April 2010

Actually the old site sometimes went weeks without posts too :)

If anyone does want to comment and can't log in and do so here they can always email us (or even post to one of our blogs).

I agree the new system is 'diffrent', but AFAIK the option of going back to the old forum doesn't exist (there may be other new options - if you want us to explore on let us know).

Stylistically it's pretty basic - but in terms of functionallity it's got some pretty nice features (discussions linked to guides - that's got the potential to be pretty powerful!)

Susan Guest09:32, 26 April 2010
Currently, users make one click and they can see at a glance all the threads that have been replied to today, who has replied, which sub-forum each thread is in, and even the first sentence or two of the actual replies. - TCE

I would say 'at a glance' is a bit hopeful. For today alone it's a page full of text, which could (if possible) be brought down to a short list of the 5 or so topics that were posted in today. I don't need to know about the individual posts until I click on the thread.

But, unlike the old forum, if you think a new sub-forum would be useful you just go ahead and create it yourself. - TCE

We're going to end up with a huge number of sub forums. I don't know if this is good or bad. At the moment I think bad, it's going to be too easy for a thread to get lost, with changes moving down the latest posts page really quickly.

Mike Lee22:17, 26 April 2010

Being able to see a full page of information is great - you don't need to click/back-click in and out of sub-forums/threads, all you do is scroll down a bit. If there are so many posts they run onto another page, that would be a bit crap. Would that happen in one day? Presumably the length of a page is variable?

As I see it, there is a bit too much information on the Latest Posts page. The username of the author of the thread is followed by '(Talk | contribs) posted a reply to', which doesn't really need to be there - or does it? There's an entry for users editing their own posts - do they really need to appear? The time of the post is followed by two stops - what are they for? Being able to see the first sentence someone has written is only useful if it's not just a quote from further up the thread! :)

The Forums page is pretty sparse at the moment. If you look at the UKB main page you have to scroll down a bit to see all the forums and sub forums, but they'll be a bit more compact on here. You're right, having loads of sub-forums would not be ideal - but having enough would help to make things manageable.

I'd like to be able to see a slightly tidier version of the current Latest Posts page plus the five most recent posts, as at the bottom of the main page on UKB - but at the top of the Latest Posts page...

EDIT - with the forum and sub-forum headings and forum how-to on the same page, rather than two separate pages:

        thread - username (the most recent poster) - time - forum x 5
        forums and sub-forums
        link to how-to page
        list of posts as in current Latest Posts

If that's all on one page you could either bookmark the main page or the forum page in your browser, depending on your priorities - and the five recent thread titles could appear on the main page. I've got the forum page on UKB in my browser rather than the main page - pretty though it is.

I'd like to see the constantly changing photo back on the main page somewhere - if it can show pictures from Flickr and elsewhere. Alan's blog looks good with a prominent photo and content lower down, and obviously UKC's new main page looks good.

TomCE23:31, 26 April 2010

Shouldn't the 'Forums' link on the front page now go to the Talk pages, seeing as threads have been moved out of the Forums to the Talk pages?

TomCE23:37, 28 April 2010

I think we are aiming to have the 10 (or some other number) of most recent posts on the front page. It's just someone will need to spend a bit of time getting it up and running (not me incidentally, i don't know code from my elbow).

Please be a little bit patient with us - bright shinny websites like UKC have full time staff being paid to work on it - SC on the other hand has busy people, with lots of other things to do (including jobs), who are paying for the privilege of running it.

Susan Guest09:25, 26 April 2010

Sue's right, we are definitely wanting to have the recent posts aggregated somewhere. This probably means the last 10 or so updated threads being linked to from the main page as well as (probably) having all of the threads linked to from a single place, like this forums page. There is a LiquidThreads bug about something similar sounding (there's a facility to vote for bugs...).

However, it's not a five minute job getting that to work and there are some other things that have to get done first.

Rest assured it's on our minds though!

Mark Somerville13:08, 29 April 2010
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