Top-ropers @ central outcrops!!

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Not sure if you're trolling, but I'll bite.

What you say is wrong. As Niall stated above, top-roping or soloing is the accepted style at Craigmore. If you were wanting on the route(s) in question, you should have just asked rather than being a plonker about it. Even using your own guidelines, maybe they were working a 'hard route' for them. I think you should try and grow up a bit before condemning others.

Giotto13:46, 6 August 2010

In my opinion, at least as far as Scottish crags are concerned that all traffic is welcome, provided actuall damage to the rock isn't being done. There are far too few people out there doing it. Routes are overgrown and when people do come along wanting to lead, they are often faced with hellish moss covered routes. This is not the case at Stanage where the opposite is true.

Climbing is meant to be FUN and I think we should be able to enoy it in which ever way we want as long as it isn't to the detriment of others. The ethics of UK climbing in general is overcomplicated with so called ethical nonsense and I feel it is this in part that is holding oveerall standards back. If someone wants to headpoint a few E2s (for example) to break in to the grade what is wrong with that? He has fun, he improves his climbing, he doesn't hurt himself or anybody else. In terms of style his ascent may be inferior, but does that matter? Why on earth people should fear head pointing below E7? Only thanks to aggressive arm chair critics!

I agree that in terms of style it is beter to improve or equal the FA, but why does everyone have to do that? When I go run a 10k i can jog it if I want and not have to beat the current UK record holder.

Your attitude to these guys is no help in the slightest. BUT well done for getting out to Craigmore - hopefully it'll be getting cleaner with all this attention.

Top roping a route isn't hurting anyone.

Alan Cassidy15:50, 6 August 2010

Fair enough. I take the points expressed. It's just very different to the predominant views I was exposed to climbing in England. I did notice moss at Craigmore so maybe the more traffic it receives the better. It is a nice crag.

Miles16:11, 6 August 2010
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